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Joe Bravo: Longtime ILC Chief Still Has Passion for Job

By Kathi Wolfe

(This is one in an ongoing series of interviews that Independence Today is conducting with leaders in the independent living movement.)

Joe Bravo's life changed in a flash. One minute, the 12-year-old was riding his bike in the Bronx, the New York City borough where he grew up. The next minute, someone horsing around with a rifle shot him from a rooftop. As a result, Bravo's spinal cord was injured, and he became a wheelchair-using paraplegic.

Today, Bravo, now 53, is executive director of the Westchester Independent Living Center in White Plains, N.Y. Bravo, who came to the Center in 1981, is believed to have held the position longer than any other independent living center (ILC) director in New York state - perhaps even in the country.

Joe Bravo presenting Senator L. Vincent Leibell, III an award for: "Exemplary Service to People with Disabilities Award" at a ribbon cutting ceremony on October, 2008. Courtesy of Rita Casey.

During a lengthy telephone interview, Bravo said there is a "tremendous turnover (among ILC executive directors) either from burnout, or they decided to go into government."

A lot of ILC executive directors or staff members decide that they're better off taking jobs in the private sector or government because "it's a lot easier," he said. "They probably get paid more - which is always an incentive at some point in your life."

During a wide-ranging conversation, Bravo related what he does to avoid burnout, how he combines being a jock and a disability advocate, and why he remains hopeful despite the bad economy and the disability rights battles that remain to be fought.

Though he began his involvement with disability advocacy in the late 1970s, Bravo, like many people with disabilities of his generation, had little awareness of disability rights when he was growing up. (The Education for All Handicapped Children Act didn't become law until 1975, and the "504 regulations" of the 1973 Rehabilitation Act weren't signed until 1977.)

After his injury as a youngster, Bravo spent seven months in rehab and then finished elementary school in a special education class. "It was called a 'health' class," Bravo said. "Junior high was pretty much a segregated class. It wasn't until high school (that) there was a lot more conversation about integrated classrooms. All the teens with disabilities were in homeroom together, but after that they separated and went into integrated classrooms."

Bravo attended Theodore Roosevelt High School, "the only accessible high school in the Bronx that my parents or I (were) aware of," Bravo said. "It was an old school, but they had renovated it and put in an elevator."

That elevator gave him access to all the floors, and there were ramps to get into and out of the building. Despite that, however, "it was very difficult (interacting with non-disabled classmates). It was new to see disabled kids being mainstreamed (then) and being around the other kids. It was not the most comfortable thing - the way we were treated."

Looking back, Bravo took some responsibility for that. "You're young, you're insecure - you just got this disability, so you're not exactly the most outgoing person either."

Still, Bravo enjoyed school. "I didn't have any consciousness (of the disability rights movement). I was just happy, after rehab and several summers in the hospital, that the yellow school bus was coming to pick me up and take me someplace. I had no consciousness that I had a right to (go to school) or that somebody (by excluding him from social interactions) might be doing me wrong."

While in rehab, Bravo had chatted with a few others with spinal-cord injuries, but in high school, he rarely encountered people with disabilities. That soon changed.

"My sister ran across an ad in the paper that they were recruiting disabled guys for a wheelchair basketball team. She knew I was always sports-minded and liked to watch sports." Bravo went to the practice and met a bunch of Vietnam veterans playing wheelchair sports. "I got hooked. I've played sports ever since."

While wheelchair basketball remains his greatest passion, Bravo has participated in a myriad of sports, from tennis to track and field. "I'm a believer in trying all the sports ... just to see what I would enjoy."

After high school, Bravo enrolled at Long Island University's Brooklyn campus, where he majored in political science. "In those days, it was one of the three accessible colleges (in New York)." The others were Hofstra University and Hunter College.

While in college, he began reading about the emerging disability rights movement, "particularly about some of the stuff that (the late disability rights advocate) Ed Roberts was doing."

And he heard about renowned disability rights leader Judith Heumann, who was then in New York. "She had gone through my college. (I) knew that she was in the midst of suing the board of education in New York City ... because at that time she wasn't allowed to teach because she was disabled."

Information about the New York advocacy group Disabled in Action was filtering down to him, Bravo said. "I was ... on the fringe of that. I was a little younger than the people who were doing that."

In his senior year at LIU, Bravo met some veterans with disabilities when he was playing sports. They introduced him to people connected with the Eastern Paralyzed Veterans Association, now called the United Spinal Association, and he was hired about six months after his graduation, in late 1978.

But Bravo, who wed his girlfriend, Nadine, the following year ("I'm still married to the same woman."), left his job as EPVA's advocacy director after two and a half years. "A lot of their emphasis was veterans' issues. I'm not a veteran. So my interests were going elsewhere."

He worked for about a year and a half for the Sullivan County (N.Y.) personnel office before "Pat (Figueroa, disability rights advocate and publisher of Independence Today) called and said 'independent living centers are springing up in New York state. You might be interested in applying,'" Bravo said.

Bravo's only previous exposure to independent living had been when he'd served as a volunteer part-time peer counselor with the Center for Independence of the Disabled in New York. (At the time, CIDNY and EPVA were located in the same building.) "They'd call me in if they had a paraplegic that they wanted me to talk to," he said. "I thought I had something to share with some disabled people."

Figueroa mentioned that the Westchester Independent Living Center was looking for a service coordinator and an executive director. Bravo applied for the latter job but landed the service coordinator post. When the newly hired executive director resigned for health reasons, however, Bravo was hired in that post. "That was what started me on this 30-year endeavor of independent living."

The center started out providing peer counseling and other core services. Then "we started (asking), 'What about client assistance services?' - working to help them get what they can out of VR (vocational rehabilitation services)."

Starting new endeavors at the center has always excited him, "because if it was always the same things, I would have burned out by now," Bravo said. "I'm not the most patient person that can just go along with things. I like stirring the pot and doing different things."

Though he likes diverse programming, he has never wanted his center to get too big. "It's not that my program is one of those 20-million-dollar IL centers. I've never wanted that ... I've always kept it ... what it was supposed to be: very grassroots-oriented."

This year his center's budget will be about $2.5 million, "which I think is plenty big for what I want to do," Bravo said. "It has grown from that first year, where I think we had a $50,000 expenditure."

Though he doesn't devalue centers with huge budgets ("They have a different vision of what needs to be done in their communities, and I respect that."), Bravo worries that the grassroots values of the independent living movement can be lost when ILC programs become too large.

"There's the concern that the bigger you become, the more traditional you become because you're taking on funding that's still based on a traditional medical model.

"The bigger you get, the bigger management you need. If you're a 15- to 20-million-dollar program, all of a sudden it becomes driven by all that money and all that it represents."

Whenever you get money, you have to do reporting - you have to be accountable to funding sources, Bravo said. "You got to have that infrastructure - audits - all of that."

Though he's a member of the National Council of Independent Living and has served on NCIL's board of directors, he has chosen to focus his energies on the New York state independent living scene. "There was so much that we needed and still need to do just in my state that I always thought that's where my interests lie."

Unlike many athletes with disabilities, Bravo feels a deep connection with the disability rights movement. The same skills that he uses in sports help him navigate the challenges of the independent living movement, he said. "It's the same aggressiveness that I find on the basketball court - banging chairs with people who are much bigger and faster than me - that keep me doing IL because you always see the next challenge."

When you're involved in sports, there's nothing that you feel you can't do for yourself, Bravo said. "You feel like you're really not all disabled, even though you are. Your mind is saying to you. 'I can do whatever I feel like doing. So why ... should I be ... fighting for (disability) rights?'"

Bravo is greatly concerned with the effect the national economic crisis will have on people with disabilities and independent living centers. Small independent living programs "could be in trouble nationwide" due to budget cuts, he said. And programs such as Medicare and Medicaid could be cut, "even though it won't be called a cut."

With "able-bodied people," some of whom are highly skilled, being laid off from jobs across the board, "are you going to hire someone with a disability just out of college who doesn't have much experience?" Bravo asked.

"We've got some issues that we want to fight for, but we may have to be in survival mode for the next six years."

Though he foresees a struggle, Bravo remains an optimist concerning people with disabilities. "We have to see the glass as half full," he said.

Kathi Wolfe is a Washington, D.C. - area writer. She writes frequently about disability issues.


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